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		<title>By: Bikoy Is Stupid</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36996</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikoy Is Stupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what's your creative debt negotiation strategy? You make it sound so easy na parang nakikipagtawaran ka lang sa tiangge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what&#8217;s your creative debt negotiation strategy? You make it sound so easy na parang nakikipagtawaran ka lang sa tiangge.</p>
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		<title>By: Meh.</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36988</link>
		<dc:creator>Meh.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victor, do you know for a fact that the government has not explored on possible negotiation deals? Perhaps there weren't any deals that would be advantageous? Or maybe they did not try to strike a deal at all, I don't know. But unless you know for certain, it's simply unfair to bash.

I do agree about the effects of undercutting education funding, though. But it is nice to know that even this situation, the Philippines has one of the highest literacy rate at 92%.

****

Lance, who do you feel is worthy if being your president then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor, do you know for a fact that the government has not explored on possible negotiation deals? Perhaps there weren&#8217;t any deals that would be advantageous? Or maybe they did not try to strike a deal at all, I don&#8217;t know. But unless you know for certain, it&#8217;s simply unfair to bash.</p>
<p>I do agree about the effects of undercutting education funding, though. But it is nice to know that even this situation, the Philippines has one of the highest literacy rate at 92%.</p>
<p>****</p>
<p>Lance, who do you feel is worthy if being your president then?</p>
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		<title>By: lance</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36976</link>
		<dc:creator>lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree to that. &lt;blockquote cite="There is money. Our President just has some skewed priorities."&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's pure stupidity treating GMA as the country's president. and GMA &lt;strong&gt;really&lt;/strong&gt; cares for her own interest. she has a heart for herself alone. not for &lt;em&gt;us&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree to that.<br />
<blockquote cite="There is money. Our President just has some skewed priorities."></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s pure stupidity treating GMA as the country&#8217;s president. and GMA <strong>really</strong> cares for her own interest. she has a heart for herself alone. not for <em>us</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36942</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kaya nga NEGOTIATION. you bargain for compromises. Brazil did that with debt swapping, the US forgiving some of Brazil's foreign debt in exchange for protecting the Amazon. why haven't we explored those sort of options?
also, how much is the long term liabilities that will result from the neglect of education and other social services? it will breed incompetent, unhealthy and poor citizens that will demand more social services in the future! that will push us to borrow more and more. its cyclical. when will it end?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kaya nga NEGOTIATION. you bargain for compromises. Brazil did that with debt swapping, the US forgiving some of Brazil&#8217;s foreign debt in exchange for protecting the Amazon. why haven&#8217;t we explored those sort of options?<br />
also, how much is the long term liabilities that will result from the neglect of education and other social services? it will breed incompetent, unhealthy and poor citizens that will demand more social services in the future! that will push us to borrow more and more. its cyclical. when will it end?</p>
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		<title>By: Celeni</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36940</link>
		<dc:creator>Celeni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debt negotiation? We won't get a positive credit rating EVER AGAIN, and that means no long term projects in this country will be financed if we pull off a waiving of our debt. We need to pay for our debt to borrow more money.

I believe that debt servicing is v. important, if only there was an ideal trickledown of the debt we're incurring. There are anomalous budgeting and auditing going on in the government but I just don't like the idea of someone calling the IMF/WB as "loan sharks." Hmph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debt negotiation? We won&#8217;t get a positive credit rating EVER AGAIN, and that means no long term projects in this country will be financed if we pull off a waiving of our debt. We need to pay for our debt to borrow more money.</p>
<p>I believe that debt servicing is v. important, if only there was an ideal trickledown of the debt we&#8217;re incurring. There are anomalous budgeting and auditing going on in the government but I just don&#8217;t like the idea of someone calling the IMF/WB as &#8220;loan sharks.&#8221; Hmph.</p>
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		<title>By: Meh.</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36939</link>
		<dc:creator>Meh.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe GMA is aiming for the quickest route to
stabilize the economy and promote investments. It still boils down to _her_ priorities. To her economic and business-oriented view, this arrangement is what suits us.

And about the corruption, it doesn't matter where the funds are routed, corruption is there. I guess it is natural to hate the one that steals the most through corruption but the fact is, corruption is everywhere. Assume GMA stole some of her 25 billion, how much would that be compared to the money lost on _all_ corruption cases?

And there's also the public image factor. If she does a good job on a project she started, she looks good. You forget Victor, it's politics. :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe GMA is aiming for the quickest route to<br />
stabilize the economy and promote investments. It still boils down to _her_ priorities. To her economic and business-oriented view, this arrangement is what suits us.</p>
<p>And about the corruption, it doesn&#8217;t matter where the funds are routed, corruption is there. I guess it is natural to hate the one that steals the most through corruption but the fact is, corruption is everywhere. Assume GMA stole some of her 25 billion, how much would that be compared to the money lost on _all_ corruption cases?</p>
<p>And there&#8217;s also the public image factor. If she does a good job on a project she started, she looks good. You forget Victor, it&#8217;s politics. :-p</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36937</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, ive read through that pdf file. the point is, kung pang-social services ang pera sa "Healing the wounds of EDSA", bakit sa pork barrel ng presidente pa kailangan ilagay, na susceptable to corruption? Bakit hindi direkta sa DepEd or sa DOH?

Another point, is that our debt can be negotiated to suit us better. Brazil did that. Venezuela did that. Why can't we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, ive read through that pdf file. the point is, kung pang-social services ang pera sa &#8220;Healing the wounds of EDSA&#8221;, bakit sa pork barrel ng presidente pa kailangan ilagay, na susceptable to corruption? Bakit hindi direkta sa DepEd or sa DOH?</p>
<p>Another point, is that our debt can be negotiated to suit us better. Brazil did that. Venezuela did that. Why can&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Meh.</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36935</link>
		<dc:creator>Meh.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 12:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was about to lash out at the author of the post but the first poster took the words from my mouth.

Anyway, I don't know where you got the numbers but it is always an SOP to state sources, especially of such statistics. Second, from what I read here you don't seem to know much about the "Healing" project. If so, then it's unfair of you to tag it as dubious. I Googled it and this is what I found: &lt;a xhref="http://www.neda.gov.ph/ads/mtpdp/MTPDP2004-2010/PDF/MTPDP%202004-2010%20NEDA_Chapterx15_EDSA.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Apparently, a portion of that 13 billion is for some sort of welfare, after all. If you did know more about that program, you failed to fully explain it here to justify. Third, the national budget isn't just sliced into debt payments, the presidential fund, social services, and the military. There's so much more. Contrary to what you said, there is _not_ enough money for education and health care, or for anything else for that matter, because, as you made clear, too much goes to debt payments. There could be enough if you take all the money away from everything else and drop it into the health care and education piggy bank. You refute that GMA could very well allocate less on that and siphon more to others but I am quite sure GMA made it clear when she ran for the presidency that alleviating our fiscal crisis is one of her major projects; she is simply acting on that. But you cannot deny the good it did us. Less debts equate to more money to spend on us, the people. Just because your priorities do not coincide with the president's does not mean they are skewed. Besides, a president doesn't just decide on that on her own. A group of people who are veterans and would most probably know a hell more than you and me about how to run a country help a president set the budget.

(On an extremely unrelated note, your comment textbox is too small. Increasing the textbox's height would be convinient, especially when making long comments.)

And to you, Makoy, I do not know how you could possibly contemplate not paying the debts. It doesn't work that way in the real world where me, Bikoy, the president, the Filipinos, and unfortunately, you, are in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was about to lash out at the author of the post but the first poster took the words from my mouth.</p>
<p>Anyway, I don&#8217;t know where you got the numbers but it is always an SOP to state sources, especially of such statistics. Second, from what I read here you don&#8217;t seem to know much about the &#8220;Healing&#8221; project. If so, then it&#8217;s unfair of you to tag it as dubious. I Googled it and this is what I found: <a xhref="http://www.neda.gov.ph/ads/mtpdp/MTPDP2004-2010/PDF/MTPDP%202004-2010%20NEDA_Chapterx15_EDSA.pdf">here</a>. Apparently, a portion of that 13 billion is for some sort of welfare, after all. If you did know more about that program, you failed to fully explain it here to justify. Third, the national budget isn&#8217;t just sliced into debt payments, the presidential fund, social services, and the military. There&#8217;s so much more. Contrary to what you said, there is _not_ enough money for education and health care, or for anything else for that matter, because, as you made clear, too much goes to debt payments. There could be enough if you take all the money away from everything else and drop it into the health care and education piggy bank. You refute that GMA could very well allocate less on that and siphon more to others but I am quite sure GMA made it clear when she ran for the presidency that alleviating our fiscal crisis is one of her major projects; she is simply acting on that. But you cannot deny the good it did us. Less debts equate to more money to spend on us, the people. Just because your priorities do not coincide with the president&#8217;s does not mean they are skewed. Besides, a president doesn&#8217;t just decide on that on her own. A group of people who are veterans and would most probably know a hell more than you and me about how to run a country help a president set the budget.</p>
<p>(On an extremely unrelated note, your comment textbox is too small. Increasing the textbox&#8217;s height would be convinient, especially when making long comments.)</p>
<p>And to you, Makoy, I do not know how you could possibly contemplate not paying the debts. It doesn&#8217;t work that way in the real world where me, Bikoy, the president, the Filipinos, and unfortunately, you, are in.</p>
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		<title>By: makoy</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36919</link>
		<dc:creator>makoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 07:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>una, wag bayaran ang foreign debt.. grabe loan shark ang IMF/WF.. pangalawa, gawing centralized ang production at distrubution.. nationalist industrialization..

tama ka sa punto mo bikoy.. ang laki ng badyet ni gloring sa debt at military/intelligence samantalang ginigipit ang education at social services..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>una, wag bayaran ang foreign debt.. grabe loan shark ang IMF/WF.. pangalawa, gawing centralized ang production at distrubution.. nationalist industrialization..</p>
<p>tama ka sa punto mo bikoy.. ang laki ng badyet ni gloring sa debt at military/intelligence samantalang ginigipit ang education at social services..</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2006/02/27/budget-talk/#comment-36901</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said we should default on our debt. There are other more imaginative options than to have to pay that much a year.

Also, one of my points, Gloria has the nerve to allot 13 billion for something as dubious as "Healing the Wounds of EDSA" and yet all she allots for health care is a mere 11 billion. Gloria's pork barrel sums up to 25 billion.

Point is, there is enough money for education, for health care. But that's not Gloria's priority.

&lt;i&gt;Raising taxes increases government revenue, therefore increasing its capability to fund debt payment and social services.&lt;/i&gt;

How come gorvernment expenditure per person actually decreased?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said we should default on our debt. There are other more imaginative options than to have to pay that much a year.</p>
<p>Also, one of my points, Gloria has the nerve to allot 13 billion for something as dubious as &#8220;Healing the Wounds of EDSA&#8221; and yet all she allots for health care is a mere 11 billion. Gloria&#8217;s pork barrel sums up to 25 billion.</p>
<p>Point is, there is enough money for education, for health care. But that&#8217;s not Gloria&#8217;s priority.</p>
<p><i>Raising taxes increases government revenue, therefore increasing its capability to fund debt payment and social services.</i></p>
<p>How come gorvernment expenditure per person actually decreased?</p>
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