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	<title>Comments on: One-Way UP Academic Oval</title>
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		<title>By: Monina Lao</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2008/04/17/one-way-up-academic-oval/#comment-250012</link>
		<dc:creator>Monina Lao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a student who walks and i agree with the one-way acad oval scheme because i find it easier to cross the street aroud the oval, before i have to look at two sides but now i just have to look at one side. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a student who walks and i agree with the one-way acad oval scheme because i find it easier to cross the street aroud the oval, before i have to look at two sides but now i just have to look at one side. <img src='http://www.bikoy.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lester</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2008/04/17/one-way-up-academic-oval/#comment-234106</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fellow council member, I have yet to talk to VC Gregorio personally about that particular policy. 

With regards to this:
"When we approached some offices in UP to request for documents with regards to community issues such as these, we were met with an obviously annoyed query, “Why are you students meddling with this? This is not your issue.” "

I am sure that there are members of the office who are nice, and then there are members who will ask why the students are "meddling". I think it's a matter of finding the right people to talk to. If not that, then we have to provide the right reasons for them to talk to us.

I think that rather than accusing the administration of plotting the repercussions that the bike lane brought, we should consult with them as to learn the rationale behind their decision, and THEN figure out the most ideal course of action.

The Jeepney drivers' voices have been heard. It is only fair and democratic that we hear the side of the OVCCA as well.

If all else fails, we take to the streets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fellow council member, I have yet to talk to VC Gregorio personally about that particular policy. </p>
<p>With regards to this:<br />
&#8220;When we approached some offices in UP to request for documents with regards to community issues such as these, we were met with an obviously annoyed query, “Why are you students meddling with this? This is not your issue.” &#8221;</p>
<p>I am sure that there are members of the office who are nice, and then there are members who will ask why the students are &#8220;meddling&#8221;. I think it&#8217;s a matter of finding the right people to talk to. If not that, then we have to provide the right reasons for them to talk to us.</p>
<p>I think that rather than accusing the administration of plotting the repercussions that the bike lane brought, we should consult with them as to learn the rationale behind their decision, and THEN figure out the most ideal course of action.</p>
<p>The Jeepney drivers&#8217; voices have been heard. It is only fair and democratic that we hear the side of the OVCCA as well.</p>
<p>If all else fails, we take to the streets.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2008/04/17/one-way-up-academic-oval/#comment-234105</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if it ain't (broken) why fix it? minor typo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if it ain&#8217;t (broken) why fix it? minor typo</p>
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		<title>By: Frances</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2008/04/17/one-way-up-academic-oval/#comment-234072</link>
		<dc:creator>Frances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally find the re-routing rather impractical. From what I've experienced, it takes a hundredfold years (metaphorically, of course) for jeepneys to reach destinations with the new route. Nakakalito rin sa bahagi ko bilang may mga ruta na akong nakasanayan for the past years sa pagko-commute within the Campus. Bike lanes? I'd be hit by some motor-powered vehicle before I get to my college.

In addition, nawawala rin yung competitive advantage amongst the jeepney operators bilang nag-o-overlap yung ruta nila. Kung pare-pareho lang ang ruta na daraanan ng jeeps, hindi ba kundisyon 'to para magkaroon lalo ng congested traffic sa Campus lalo na kapag umagang rush hour? At kung talagang out of "pro-environment endeavors" ang pag-implement ng UP Administration sa aforesaid scheme, this is still no alibi para mag-step upon sa pamumuhay ng jeepney operators. Hindi lang naman kasi ito usapin ng mga students, faculty and staff na mahihirapang mag-commute dahil sa bagong ruta ng jeepneys, kundi pati rin ng mismong mga tsuper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally find the re-routing rather impractical. From what I&#8217;ve experienced, it takes a hundredfold years (metaphorically, of course) for jeepneys to reach destinations with the new route. Nakakalito rin sa bahagi ko bilang may mga ruta na akong nakasanayan for the past years sa pagko-commute within the Campus. Bike lanes? I&#8217;d be hit by some motor-powered vehicle before I get to my college.</p>
<p>In addition, nawawala rin yung competitive advantage amongst the jeepney operators bilang nag-o-overlap yung ruta nila. Kung pare-pareho lang ang ruta na daraanan ng jeeps, hindi ba kundisyon &#8216;to para magkaroon lalo ng congested traffic sa Campus lalo na kapag umagang rush hour? At kung talagang out of &#8220;pro-environment endeavors&#8221; ang pag-implement ng UP Administration sa aforesaid scheme, this is still no alibi para mag-step upon sa pamumuhay ng jeepney operators. Hindi lang naman kasi ito usapin ng mga students, faculty and staff na mahihirapang mag-commute dahil sa bagong ruta ng jeepneys, kundi pati rin ng mismong mga tsuper.</p>
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		<title>By: jod</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2008/04/17/one-way-up-academic-oval/#comment-234008</link>
		<dc:creator>jod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was okay having the two-way academic oval. and the number of joggers did not increase after they made way for the bike/jogger lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was okay having the two-way academic oval. and the number of joggers did not increase after they made way for the bike/jogger lane.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman</title>
		<link>http://www.bikoy.net/archives/2008/04/17/one-way-up-academic-oval/#comment-233960</link>
		<dc:creator>Norman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.

"Do you think converting the inner lane of the oval into a bike lane is beneficial to students?" 
No. I don't see many bikes for that wide a bike lane. Beneficial to students? No. Do the implementors of this crap (sorry) have any statistics that show how many students use bikes and how many students use cars or other motorized vehicles to go to UP? The bike lane is beneficial to outsiders, who can use it for their exercise and leisure. So there. For the administration, it is more important to make our university more useful for outsiders rather than for us students.

"Or the re-routing of the Katipunan and Toki jeepneys?"
No. I just think that there has to be one route that is opposite of the other routes (in terms of direction). Also, I pity Toki jeepney drivers. Gasoline must be very valuable to any driver (PUV driver or otherwise) and the mush longer route they have right now is so not practical/right.

If it ain't broke, why fix it, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you think converting the inner lane of the oval into a bike lane is beneficial to students?&#8221;<br />
No. I don&#8217;t see many bikes for that wide a bike lane. Beneficial to students? No. Do the implementors of this crap (sorry) have any statistics that show how many students use bikes and how many students use cars or other motorized vehicles to go to UP? The bike lane is beneficial to outsiders, who can use it for their exercise and leisure. So there. For the administration, it is more important to make our university more useful for outsiders rather than for us students.</p>
<p>&#8220;Or the re-routing of the Katipunan and Toki jeepneys?&#8221;<br />
No. I just think that there has to be one route that is opposite of the other routes (in terms of direction). Also, I pity Toki jeepney drivers. Gasoline must be very valuable to any driver (PUV driver or otherwise) and the mush longer route they have right now is so not practical/right.</p>
<p>If it ain&#8217;t broke, why fix it, right?</p>
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